Episode 4: Kinesiology with Sara Santarossa

This week we talk about arts in science! We start with a discussion about #AlongsideScience and how art is a wonderful asset to science and research.  Next, we read about Dr. Elizabeth Blackwell, the first female doctor in the United States! We interview Superwoman Sara Santarossa about Kinesiology and talk about the wonderful work she does young girls and her other research. Finally, we talk about the colouring book Super Cool Scientists! Listen and enjoy!

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-Ukulele Intro-

Cordon & Nicole: This is Superwomen in Science!

C: I’m Cordon and I’m a music therapist.


N: And I’m Nicole, I’m a neuroscientist.


C: We will be discussing the past, present, and future of women in science.


N: Highlighting a variety of scientific endeavours as well as issues facing women in science.


C: Today we’re talking about Kinesiology.


Welcome back to our fourth episode!


N: Today for our discussion we want to talk about something that’s happened recently on Twitter. It’s called #AlongsideScience. So maybe actually I’ll read out the tweet that started this. So it came from Dr. Solomon David. He said “Please share. Actual living scientists are people too. What do you enjoy outside of work? What do you do #AlongsideScience. And then it’s just been this really cool thing to follow online to see what sorts of things, like different passions and interests and hobbies that people have outside of their scientific career.


C: Yeah. It’s really awesome to see. So some of the awesome things in this hashtag are being an aerialist, baking, which is awesome, I love baking.


N: That’s amazing.


C: Taking pictures, being outdoors, a lot of poetry. A lot of really creative people, which is amazing because you see the mirror between science and research and all this creativity, right?


N: Yes!


C: Bird watcher, powerlifter, you go girl, awesome job.


N: Somebody played the cello, the composer.


C: Dancing, equestrian, a lot of really really cool things. Someone fishes.


N: Wonderful.


C: Someone’s on a roller derby team! Yes!


N: Yes!


C: Crocheting and knitting. Okay I’ll stop now, that’s enough.


N: So many interests.


Yeah I do love the whole science and art mash-up. Especially because sometimes we’re so often like, “pick a lane. You’re either a scientist or an artist.”


C: Do both people. Do both; bring it in to your research.


N: Yeah. Throughout today’s episode, I think, we’ll come back to this idea a couple of times of how you can do art, you can do research or science, your art can inform your science, and it’s just really awesome to see proof, I guess, online of people that really are doing it all, and that’s so great.


C: We wanted to talk about a couple things along with that in this discussion, and one was bringing your art into your science. There are so many different great research methods where you can journal, you can write poetry, you can compose, you can paint, and you can use that as data in your research. Mostly in qualitative science, where you can help situate the researcher in your position during the research, but there’s room for that in every, every form of research.


N: That’s so cool. And that’s something that definitely you’re way more familiar with being in arts research, and I love hearing about that, because that’s not at all kind of my field of expertise at all. It’s really cool to learn about that.


C: And there’s lots of different ways to do it too, so it’s super cool.


The other topic we wanted to touch on in this discussion around Alongside Science, and it could be a purely selfish topic, but it’s how we don’t feel like we have time, in grad school at least, to do things alongside science.


Obviously I do music, and I love making music. But when I was in school, and my internship, and my Master’s, I felt like I didn’t have time to do it for myself. Everything I was doing related to music was for class, it was for school, it was for a performance, or it was for my clients. I never really took time to love music for myself.


N: Yeah, I think that it’s important just in terms of self-care, you know. Taking the time to do something for yourself. Just in terms of work-life balance, not entirely doing only science. There’s this idea that to succeed in academia you need to be single track, tunnel vision on your scientific goal. Let’s start acknowledging and celebrating the people who have all these diverse interests, and let’s start talking about how that’s actually helping them in their career, not taking away from it.


C: So important! Yeah. Because, in my experience of academia, when I would take time to do something for myself I would feel guilty.


N: yeah!


C: You know, there’s this perception that, “Oh I can’t be serious about what I’m doing. I can’t do this fun thing for myself and still be a serious researcher or a serious academic, because I’m not doing academia all the time.” Which is ridiculous and so unhealthy.


N: Yeah, that’s really unhealthy. I think that’s what was a really cool about this twitter trend or thread, I guess, was just seeing there were legitimate professors and real scientists, who were just like, “yeah, all the time I do this cool, fun side hobby.” They didn’t say it as like, “I’m guilty about this. Or I do this but I know it’s bad that I’m not researching.” They just straight up were like, “This is something that I’m passionate about and I love having diverse interests.” And that’s so great.


C: Yep, and it’s so great. This is more about self-care I think and the importance.


N: If you have a hobby or something, don’t be afraid to just do it and not feel like you’re letting down the field of science or your future. You never know in what way it will inspire your work or just taking the time to do something on the side could give your mind that creative break it needs to be able to come back and feel more invigorated and figured out that problem, or just feel inspired about why exactly you’re doing this research or science problem in general.


C: yeah for sure. I recently discovered that I really like doing art, like painting and visual art, even though I’m not good at it. So a learning journey of “it’s okay to like things that you’re not good at.”


N: Yeah.


C: Yeah. Because my whole life I was like “Oh I’m not good at this so I don’t like it.” So I’ve recently started to move into that but then I started my Master’s and I had no time. So that’s something for me that I’m going to personally work on, along with doing more music for myself, because I know that’s important for me as a music therapist and a music researcher. But also doing things for myself that aren’t music and aren’t related to my work.


N: I love the idea too of what you said about doing something that you’re not good at because I feel like, this is just be me being a perfectionist, but I do feel like it’s slightly ingrained in academia of you only do what you know you can succeed at, and I hate doing things that I’m not great at.


C: Oh yes. We have talked about this many times throughout our friendship.


N: But I think that alongside science, do something that you kind of suck at!


C: Yeah! Find something that you love and you can get better at! You don’t have to be the best at everything that you do.


-Musical interlude-


C: Today we’re reading about Elizabeth Blackwell, a doctor.


Elizabeth Blackwell had no interest in medicine until a friend of hers died from what was most likely uterine cancer. Oh, that’s very sad. Her friend said she might have experienced less pain and suffering if only she had had a female doctor. This put Elizabeth on the path to becoming the first woman medical doctor in the United States.


N: Woo.


C: Elizabeth was born into a family of abolitionists in 1821 with an upbringing that valued justice and equality. While working as a schoolteacher, she was mentored by male doctor friends and read books from their medical libraries. Although many didn’t believe it was possible, she was accepted into Geneva Medical College. Not possible?


Medical school is hard for any student, but Elizabeth faced additional challenges. Often met with hostility, she had to sit separately from the male students, and her teachers were embarrassed by her presence during anatomy lessons. When asked to leave a lecture about reproduction to protect her delicate sensibilities, she argued her way into staying. This is making me really angry.


N: Who’s delicate now?


C: During the summer she worked in a hospital in Philadelphia and saw how the hospital conditions contributed to the spread of infectious disease. The experience inspired her thesis on how good hygiene could prevent the spread of typhus. In 1849 she graduated from Geneva Medical College first in her class.


Elizabeth’s sister, Emily, also became a doctor. Together with Dr. Marie Zakrzewska, they opened the New York Infirmary for indigent women and children in 1857. It was a place for the poor to get treatment and for female medical students and nurses to learn.


N: Yes!


C: In the 1800s there was little known about communicable diseases, and hand washing was not mandatory for doctors like it is today? Ew. It was very common for doctors to go straight from treating someone with the flu to delivering a baby without even washing up. This caused the spread of diseases like typhus.


N: Oh my god.


C: Isn’t that awful? Ew.


N: That’s disgusting.


C: Yeah. Elizabeth realized that prevention is better than cure and in her lectures she advocated for better hygiene standards in hospitals and homes. Elizabeth went on to found the Women’s Medical College of the New York Infirmary of 1868 and the London School of Medicine for Women around 1874. An inspiration to many women, she also made it possible for many of them to become doctors.


Oh my god.


N: That’s amazing.


C: Now I want to be a doctor.


N: Yes. She was a friggin’ boss too. Just being a doctor is incredible. Just being anyone is incredible, but she was a doctor but she was also a major game changer. Incredible.


Musical interlude


C: Today we have a wonderful interview for you.


N: Sara Santarossa, a PhD student in kinesiology at the University of Windsor. So Sara and I were both in the wonderful faculty of human kinetics and I can’t think of a better representation of the field. So I’m really excited for this interview.


So Sara, before we get started, we have one question for you, or a question for you: but do you wear a lab coat?


Sara: I do not wear a lab coat.


N: Cool cool.


C: Cool. So Nicole’s told me a little bit about what you do Sara, but maybe you can tell us more about what you do as a kinesiologist and kind of explain the kinesiology to us.


S: Sure. So I think I’m kind of an unconventional kinesiologist because my research doesn’t really fit into anything that’s going on at Windsor. So just as a background, the University of Windsor has two areas, one’s sport management and one is movement science, or when you get into the graduate area it’s called applied human performance. So I’m in this gray zone, I don’t fit into either. I kind of do a little bit of both and I do some work with health as well, so at Windsor that’s what kinesiology looks like, it’s like a mosaic of different fields and I don’t really fit into any of them with my research. So I’m looking forward to talking to you about what I do specifically and what’s coming out of our little lab group that we’ve started and the research that we’ve started that’s really different than what’s going on in the faculty.


Probably when you hear kinesiology a lot of people think, okay you guys play sports or it has to do with physical activity and what I’m doing, my main research really doesn’t have to do with either of that. Yeah.


C: Cool.


N: Yeah, that’s awesome. Yeah definitely when I was in kin people were just like, “oh can you write me an exercise program?” I was like, “I’m doing physiology, so no.” So nobody really knows what kinesiology is.


So would you like to expand just a bit on your current research and also you said your lab’s research and just what you’re working on right now?


S: Okay awesome. So my Master’s work was in how social media is influencing things like body image, self-esteem, eating behaviours, and eating disorders. Within kinesiology one of the courses that I took was Sport Nutrition and also Obesity and Eating Disorders. I’ve always had an interest with food and how people eat socially and what they’re eating. So my research came out of seeing things that young people were posting on social media, and it was really disturbing, especially in the eating disorder realm. There’s almost cliques online where they support the eating disorder but in a negative way. So they’re teaching each other how to have an eating disorder or certain types of diets that are really unhealthy behaviours. So I became fascinated with what was going on with this younger generation and social media.


So that was my Master’s work and since then we’ve kind of expanded and started doing some big scale data collections with social media. So we use a software called Netlytic which is a Canadian software, it’s open sourced, and it’s been really great because we’ve been able to collect mass data sets, like 10,000 Instagram posts at a time surrounded around a particular hashtag, and we’re able to analyze certain features of the conversation that are going on. We’ve done a lot of mixed-methods analysis, so we’re looking at photo coding, but then we’re also looking at word frequency. We’re running qualitative and quantitative stuff, so it’s been really really great with that software. So I can talk in detail about numerous projects that we have going with that.


Aside from that, my dissertation research is actually going to be expanding on my Master’s work, so we will be looking at how parent role models online and how that’s influencing a child’s body image, self-esteem, eating behaviours, and eating disorders. So if mom is posting a photo of her dieting or a photo of her exercising, or maybe one where she’s drinking, or saying something that’s inappropriate, you would just be really surprised as things that parents post, and kids that are following them. I know growing up Facebook or Instagram, that didn’t exist, and my mom just got Facebook so that’s not something that she was on and she wasn’t somebody who I was looking at in that online world, but now that’s very different and kids are doing that.


And then we do have some physical literacy research going on as well, and that’s much more hands on. And that’s what I was doing today, was working with … We’ve done thousands of kids across Windsor-Essex county, and we use a tool called CAPL, Canadian Assessment of Physical Literacy. We’re running them through a battery or physical tests and then we also do some psychological evaluations through some survey work, so it’s a lot.


I think I have a lot of projects on the go, but that’s the broad idea of what I’m doing right now.


N: That’s awesome! Do you want to just maybe expand on what physical literacy is if somebody doesn’t know that term?


S: Yeah. So you can think of physical literacy in a way as if you were thinking about literacy or numeracy. So in school you learn your ABCs and then those ABCs become words, sentences, paragraphs, and you can read and write, and then you know, you’re writing papers and you’re talking. So physical literacy is very similar, in a sense, where we learn fundamental movement skills. So those are like our ABCs. That’s like a hop, a skip, a jump, a run, and throw, and then we’re putting those together and creating movement patterns. So in basketball we need to run, we need to stop, and then we need to pass the ball. So the idea behind being physically literate, which is not the same as physical fitness because you can be physically fit but not physically literate, is that if somebody who’s physically literate will have the confidence and competence to participate in a wide variety of physical activity and enjoy that physical activity whether that be in land, air, water, ice, whatever it is, and that they’ll want to stay active for their lifetime. So that’s what physical literacy is in a nutshell.


C: What first got you interested in science and kinesiology?


S: My actual interest going into kinesiology was that I wanted to go into medicine. So I had all of these different things that I tried out: I wrote my MCAT, so I thought I was going to go to med school, I volunteered hundreds of hours in a physiotherapy and an occupational therapy department, I thought maybe I’d want to do that. So I tried out all of these different careers within kinesiology knowing that my path was something along those lines and kinesiology keeps the door really open, and that’s what I liked about the program, was that there were going to be a lot of options.


So when all of that kind of didn’t work out or just didn’t feel like it was meant to be, I actually took a year where I just did visual arts. I needed a break from the theory, the reading, and the multiple-choice tests, and I was doing welding and woodworking, and painting and things like that.


N: Oh that’s so cool.


S: Yeah, and just getting to be really creative and I think, in that year, I was also doing some research with a professor in kinesiology and I really enjoyed that creative part of the fine arts and I find that, with research, I’m able to be creative and that’s the part that I enjoy the most, is that I can create something and see it through and then it has this finished product almost like an art piece in a way. So a high school teacher told me, she was my math teacher, and she said, “you’ll really like kinesiology, you should do it.”  I applied for visual arts, kinesiology, and nursing. I was set on nursing and then I kind of switched. Our department head at the time used to do phone calls, and I got a phone call from Dr. Marino and it said “We’d really like to have Sara at this program” and I just that was the coolest thing ever, because nursing wasn’t doing that. I mean, they call every potential student but I thought it was a really big deal, so then I was like, “Okay this HK thing sounds like a good idea,” and it was. It’s like a family and it was a really really great experience. So that’s kind of how I got involved in the department and decided to go that route.


C: Awesome.


N: Yeah, I think that’s such a HK family thing to do. I remember Dr. Marino calling me as well. It really is a family thing. But that’s also really cool in that it’s also helped you kind of make your own niche because you fit in really well at HK and now you’re able to be like, “okay, I want to ask this question” and like you said, design this project and it’s not necessarily like a specific lab is doing that, you’ve created your own thing, and that’s really great. Windsor is awesome.


S: It is.


N: So slightly related, I guess, what motivates your work as a scientist? So specifically the work that you’re doing right now with young girls?


S: Yeah, so I think that mainly it’s wanting to improve the lives of others. I always say that my goal in life would be to improve everybody’s life. But I’ve had some really serious interviews with some girls who are in high school and now even younger, and the amount of pressure they feel with social media and body image issues is just something I couldn’t fathom as a ten year old. Or as somebody who is 16 and have these apps on their phone that actually look like ticker trackers on Wall St. It measures how many likes they get a day, who’s following who.


N: Oh God.


S: It’s so much work and these girls are expressing to me how exhausted they are and how they have to filter and edit everything to feel like they can fit in. Or they filtered something and they get all of these comments and all these messages of praise on that photo and they think, “okay, now I always have to filter my image.” So that’s where, I think, my motivation comes from. I want people to feel good about themselves and to feel confident in the things that they do and that they can achieve things. Because, working with young girls, particularly some work that I do with Leadership Advancement for Women in Sport, is that we see a lot of women lack leadership opportunities or they aren’t taking the opportunity because they may feel like they can’t do it. Through my research, I hope I can instil that confidence or motivate other people to feel like they can achieve what they want to achieve.


C: That’s beautiful.


S: Oh, thank you.


All: (laugh)


C: So within kinesiology do you have one really influential person or theory or theorist that drives your work?


S: So I think that’s a really interesting question, because I don’t feel like I use the same theory in all my projects, I feel like it changes from project to project or topic to topic. But I did put a little thought into this and I think what I like doing is taking something old and innovating it into something new.


So Goffman was a theorist in the performing arts. So he had a theory called the self-presentation theory and what that was was with actors and actresses, when they were performing on stage they could be portrayed a certain way and the audience believed that that’s how they were. However, behind the scenes, maybe that’s not what they were really like. I’m using that theory in social media, because what we see is that …


I’m doing a specific project with ESPN the magazine’s The Body Issue, so if you’re not familiar with The Body Issue what it is is the athletes have posed nude for this magazine, but they’re covered in some way, so I guess not fully nude. What we did was we looked at all of the female athletes that we featured in the magazine and we looked at all the photos ESPN had taken of them and then we looked at what photos specifically that the females chose to self-present on their Instagram account. So what we found was that ESPN took all these pictures and most of them were of the athletes just posed. So we know that, not only are female athletes underrepresented in the media, but when they are they’re objectified or in some sort of weird sexual position. So what we found was that, yes ESPN was taking these photos, but of the few photos that ESPN had taken that were actually action shots, those were the photos that the females were using on their Instagram to self-present. So I think that theory’s really interesting because social media is allowing for this almost like this stage, where they have a choice as to how they want to self-present and then the audience are all their followers or the people who are online. We’re also able to analyze that conversation back through our software. So we can look at all of the comments that people left on those photos and the language used between males and female commenters, which is also really interesting, because the males are disgusting. That’s a whole other thing. But I think that’s what I like doing, taking maybe something that seems like it wouldn’t fit with the type of research that we’re doing but innovating it in a way that would.


C: Yeah, and that’s super creative and kind of talks to what you said earlier about being creative in your research.


S: Yeah.


C: Cool.


N: So within kinesiology do you have any mentors who helped shape your experience?


S: I think I have a lot of mentors because I really enjoy working in a team environment. I feel like I’ve even learned a lot from undergrads that I get to work with, I sometimes feel like they’re mentoring me in certain things, especially with my research, they keep me up to date with things. But specifically I have two that I would say have really shaped my experience throughout my academic career.


One being Dr. Sarah Woodruff.  So I have done my Master’s and I’m doing my PhD with her and I would love, my dream job would be to work at the University of Windsor and work with her for the rest of my life because we’re such a good team and just have created a really good group of passionate researchers who all believe in this same goal of wanting to make people feel good about themselves and whether that be through food, or body image, or family life, or things like that. So I started working with her when I was in my undergrad, I did some research, and then when my med school dream was coming to an end and I had gotten my results from my MCAT, she said, “did you think about doing a Master’s ever?” And it really was not something that I had thought about. Going into university if you had said, I don’t even know what a PhD was, so there was no way I was thinking about becoming any type of academic. But I stayed, I did my Master’s and I knew right away that I wanted to do a PhD because I had enjoyed my experience so much and she really allowed me to have the freedom to do the type of research that I wanted, which I think is really important in any sort of mentorship relationship or advisee relationship, is that the relationship is mutually beneficial, because everybody needs something different. I’m a little bit high strung, Sarah’s more laid back, I always need a chill person in my life because I feel like I’m not that chill. So she’s been really good for that, just helped me along this really long journey of academia.


The second mentor who I absolutely look up to is Dr. Marge Holman. She was a long-time professor in kinesiology. I think I didn’t really think about feminism or what it meant to be a feminist or anything like that until I had really started to conversing with her and then I thought like, oh yeah, I believe all that stuff. I must be a feminist, and I have all of these thoughts. She was just really supportive with anything that I wanted to do. So she’s the founder of Leadership Advancement for Women in Sport. She has done a lot of work in gender equity in terms of sport specific but kinesiology field. She’s just been really inspiring and really supportive for me. So those are my two mentors I would say.


C: Awesome, thank you!


So if someone wants to get into kinesiology what do they have to do?


S: That’s a good question. So in terms of coming in from high school and you’re thinking you want to go the more sciencey route, because I know it’s different at every university. Western has a business and then a science road as well for kinesiology. So if you’re thinking you’re going to do the more science stream, you’re going to want to have some high school courses that cover biology, I found chemistry really important in my undergrad, and I just think chemistry helps you with a lot of things. And then there’s certain exercise science courses that you could take in high school as well. I did not take that class, I actually took visual arts instead, and then in first year anatomy everybody was on the ball and I had no idea what was going on for the first couple of weeks, but it was all review, so I think that course was probably a really important one to take. So I would suggest taking that.


Kinesiology is a lot to do with people, so I think you have to want to work with people or be involved with people in some way or want to help people. Because whether you’re in sport management or the movement science or whatever area, your outcome is dealing with people, so you’re going to want to be a people person I guess.


I think too volunteering is really important. Not necessarily to get in to kinesiology, but once you get in and then you’re like, “okay I can do a million things with this, what am I gonna do?” is to volunteer and try out different fields and see what’s interesting to you and then go from there.


C: Awesome.


N: Yeah, that’s great. What’s been really great about your interview in general is showing that you know, people often think of kinesiology as one thing, or they think this is just going to be a step before med school and before physio, and like you discovered there are so many things kin can take you to. Research is just one of those things, and even within it there’s such a huge spectrum and world of kin research so I think that’s great and I hope that somebody listens and then decides that they want to go into kinesiology because it’s so much more than just exercise prescription.


S: I think too what happens, this is specifically to the University of Windsor, but if you talk to somebody who’s in kinesiology at Windsor it’s a really easy sell to convince them to come into the program. I had a couple high school students, you know, they were asking me about why kinesiology? And I said on campus you’re more just a number for certain programs, whereas in kin you’re really valued as a student. That has a lot to do with the faculty so that’s speaking specifically to Windsor, but I felt that really helped me. I knew I made the right decision because I felt that really family atmosphere and team environment, which I like.


N: What are your hopes for the future of women in kinesiology?


S: So I think my biggest hope for women in kinesiology is that we create innovative spaces for other researchers where we can work together and network and advance the field in a way that can benefit us, because a lot of the sport research focuses on males or women aren’t involved in sport as much as males. So I think we need to really work together to advance the research, which can then be knowledge translation back to people in the community to get them involved and feel inspired as to what we’re working on. Does that make sense?


N: Oh yeah, completely. I think that’s a great answer and I think that’s such a great representation of what kinesiology is, so that’s great.


So where can people find you on social media if they want to follow you. Not ironically because of your research in social media, but just if people listening to this podcast are interested, Twitter, Instagram, website? Anything like that?


S: Yeah, I think I use social media, this is based from my research too, each platform for something different. So my academic platform, I would say, is Twitter. So if you wanted to follow me it’s “s” but spelled like I tried to be cool with how I was spelling “s” so it’s ess_santaHK so you can look for me on Twitter.


C: Cool. We’ll link to that.


N: We can link it.


S: Perfect!


-Musical interlude-


N: Okay, today for our portion of the podcast where we talk about something for the next generation we have something very cool to share with you guys. It’s called the Super Cool Scientist Book. It’s actually a colouring book and it’s very cool! Cordon and I have seen a virtual copy and it’s awesome! So we’re really excited to tell you all about it and to let you know where you can get one!


C: Yeah! So Super Cool Scientists is a story and colouring book that celebrates women in science, technology, engineering, and math. The book features full-page bios and a full-page illustration of 22 feature scientists.


N: The book was written by Sara MacSorely and illustrated by Yvonne Page. We have an excerpt from Sara, so she said “It was important for me to feature a full range of diversity in the book from different science fields to different individual backgrounds and experiences. Representation matters. One of my goals for the book was to have everyone who picked it up to relate to some aspect of one of the stories.”


C: So Sara studied marine biology and thought she would become a researcher until she discovered she didn’t really like research. As is usual, no one up to that point had told her that there were other things you could do in science. So she was really excited to find something like the colouring book that she could do to inspire future scientists.


The fields in the book range from video game design to industrial engineering to marine science, since she still has a lot of love for that area.


N: Yeah, and I mean, looking at the book it’s so awesome because there’s a full page write up about an awesome female scientist, about their journey, and then there’s a full page illustration. There’s so many different … you really see a full spectrum of different science careers. It’s so great, I love it so much, I can’t wait.  I’m going to buy this. Didn’t you say that you’re going to buy it for all of the future children friends have?


C: Yeah. I’m indoctrinating children to love women in science. So I’m going to buy two and gift it to somebody’s child.


N: It can just be your go-to baby shower gift. You’ll be known as the girl that brings the women in science colouring book. I love that.


Sara said that one of her favourite things about the book is seeing readers share their colouring pages. You can share by using #SuperCoolScientist on Facebook and Twitter. She loves seeing young reader’s interpretations of the images, it helps her know that the book is doing what she wants it to do, which is inspiring young people to see themselves in science careers. Yes!


C: You can learn more about the project by going to the website supercoolscientsits.com and following them on social media. We’ll put everything down in the show notes.


N: Books are for sale on Amazon and Barnes and Noble online. There’s more information on their website, which again we’ll link to in our show notes. There’s also a shop with super cool t-shirts too.


For any school districts or research conference organizers, Sara does bulk order educational pricing. She has her e-mail listen at Saramacsorley@gmail.com we’ll also link to that.


And exciting news is that she’s actually making a second volume!


C: Yeah, so exciting! Twice as many women scientists to colour.


N: Yes, there’s never enough!


C: The Kickstarter isn’t live yet, but once they have the link they’ll send it along and we’ll make sure to retweet it and let everybody know that it’s up so we can give money to this awesome cool cause, which combines everything that I love, and I know that Nicole loves, science and art together, and kids, and amazingness.


N: The new campaign will run through August and early September with some awesome reward options. Ooh. “We already have a dozen new scientists on board to be part of it and are super excited to share their stories.” Fields in software engineering, climate science, veterinary research, and more, and they’re planning to have it published by the end of the coming school year. So that’s awesome!


C: Definitely not just a kid colouring book. Adult colouring is so big right now, I’m 100% colouring this for myself.


N: Yeah, and it really relates to everything we’ve been talking about this entire episode, you know, about your mental health and self care, and just taking a break to colour in some pages and also learn about some awesome lady scientists. So couldn’t endorse it more.


C: Yeah, thank you so much Sara and everyone at Super Cool Scientists for letting us talk about it, we’re super excited. And like Nicole said, we saw a sample version and it’s really awesome and I’m going to go buy two copies right now.


This week we got a lot more awesome tweets, thank you so much, keep tweeting at us! We wanted to read a couple of our favourites.


First, we have an awesome tweet from Beth Linus. “This is great, we desperately need to support each other both as scientists and in our personal lives. Thank you #womeninSTEM.”


N: Awe thanks Beth! That’s amazing, we agree entirely. We need to support everyone.


We also have a tweet from Lauren Diepenbrock. She quoted our podcast and said “I know what I’m listening to while I go through samples today.” So that’s awesome, obviously she’s like a woman scientist and that’s amazing. I really love the idea of somebody doing science listening to our podcast.


C: Yeah! To be honest, we love the idea of anybody listening to our podcast, but that’s extra awesome.


Vanessa S. said “How wonderful! Couple Canadian women in STEM featuring and supporting other women in STEM. Like being in a convo with friends talking about life and science. Check it out.” Thanks so much Vanessa!


N: I love that so much!


C: I know.


N: I have thought about that tweet at least several times throughout this week. Frequently it just comes into my head “like being in convo with friends talking life and sci.”


C: I know. I love it so much.


N: I just want that tattooed on my body, thanks for such a perfect endorsement.


C: 100th episode we’re getting that tattooed on our body.


N: Then our last tweet we have to share here came from the account Stories in Science. They said “The field of #Storiesinscience continues to grow. This is just a partial list. Know of others? Respond below.” They included us on this list of different science communicators. So they have different blogs, different podcasts, all sorts of really cool projects. So we’ll link to that in the show notes and you can definitely go see all of these different projects that all revolve around the idea of sharing stories about science, behind the scenes of science, just really cool stuff.


C: Yeah, it’s awesome, go check it out.


N: Thank you so much for listening to the Superwomen in Science Podcast!


C: Just a reminder that we’re reading from Rachel Ignotofsky’s book Women in Science.


N: A big thank you for our special guest Sara Santarossa!


C: Make sure to follow us on Soundcloud to hear our podcast every other week. And we have big plans coming up with iTunes to make sure to follow us on social media!


N: You can find us on Facbook at Superwomen in Science Podcast and on Twitter at SuperwomenSci. Please send us comments, messages, tweets, there’s a huge likelihood that you’ll be featured on the show.


C: Oh very much so.


A transcript of this episode and every episode can be found on our website superwomeninsceince.wordpress.com


N: So tweet us/message us if you’re a kinesiologist/if you’re just researching in in kinesiology, or if you want us to talk about your field of science.


C: Thank you everybody!


-Fade out with music, bloopers-



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